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# Thursday, April 07, 2005

35 hour work week

I didn't know France had a 35 hour work week till I was in Paris 2 years ago reading my Lonely Planet in Napoleon's bedroom at the Louvre. 35 hours!!! Well, France finally got rid of it. Now it's 39 hours and there are a million caveats. I think they still get 5 weeks vacation and retire with 80% of their last year's salary in whatever job they are employed. About 1/4 of the working population in France works for the government according to Lonely Planet. Women in France also get up to 3 years off work for maternity leave. In the US you are lucky to get 6 weeks! (Microsoft is very generous and give 12 weeks I think, and men can take 4 weeks paid paternity or 8 weeks with 4 unpaid). I think 6 months maternity leave is probably more appropriate given what it is you are doing.

Well France, welcome to a brave new world...

"Last year, a parliamentary committee reported that the 35-hour week cost France more than $13 billion a year, casting doubt on a labor ministry study that suggested it had created 350,000 jobs between 1998 and 2002.

Some also argued that the shorter week hurt living standards because employers froze salaries to make up for lost labor.

According to a 2003 OECD survey of 25 industrialized countries, only Norwegian and Dutch employees worked less time each year than the French, who worked an average 1,431 hours. German workers put in 1,446 hours, British 1,673 hours, Americans 1,792 hours and Koreans 2,390 hours."

[MSNBC]

35 hours. Sheesh! My wife has a mandatory 80 hour work week and she gets paid (very little) for 40 of them! How do you like them Apples!

 

Friday, April 08, 2005 2:24:29 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Dear OMAR,

I reviewed your website and, being French and having staff in France, let me explain how it works NOW:

In the beginning you had to pay an employee 39H for 35H worked.

Now, you do not have to pay people to work 35H with a 39H salary. Which btw decreased our competitively which was not even good before.

Meaning - You pay them a 35 hours salary for 35 hours worked.

Now with the new law, if you want, you can ask them to work 39H paid 39H.

However, most companies, when the new law came into effect - only asked the same amount of work and results in 39 hours for only 35 hours work. So workers had to increase their productivity.

Now, most companies won't return to 39H paid 39H coz they are afraid their employee won't increase their productivity.

Results> Higher efficiency - lower cost which is good in general for France - but which is bad for workers coz they earn less - therefore spend less. [So long for the extended free time reserved for expensive pleasure!]

Hope my view helped you to understand the situation better,

Regards,

Charles
Charles
Friday, April 08, 2005 6:28:04 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
80 hours? What exactly does your wife DO!? That is just nuts...

PH
Friday, April 08, 2005 10:26:42 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Paying employees (very little) for only forty hours of work while requiring eighty hours of work is abusive. Whatever company treats its employees so poorly does not deserve to have them.

By the way, did you know that your form fails with no error message? I suspect you are foolishly screening out my REAL NAME, so I have added brackets around the last letter in the probably string that is triggering your poorly-conceived, poorly developed comment software.
Friday, April 08, 2005 10:28:25 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Yep, that was it. How disappointingly narrow-minded.
Friday, April 08, 2005 10:32:32 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Where the heck does your wife work and why doesn't she quit?
Friday, April 08, 2005 11:06:52 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
My wife is a Resident Physician, as such she is required to work 80 hours a week in order to eventually get board certified. And 80 hours is now a new federal max, as it used to be more.
Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16:38 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Hi Omar,

My G/F is in the same boat (Ortho). But actually, 80 hours is the MAX, and not all programs require their residents to work 80 hours a week. While most programs do require the 80 hours, not all do. For example, ask a Dermatology or Psych. resident how many hours a week they work... ;-)
DavidBarracuda
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