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# Saturday, January 05, 2008

New Year Resolution: Not fly Alaska Airlines

Many of you who have read my blog over the past few years know about my disdain for Alaska Airlines. I have been flying them since the better part of 2000 to Seattle for work, averaging about once a month. That's about 168 flights on that airline. I have been screwed by maintenance failures, incompetent scheduling practices, weather, and just the unexpected.

Between SFO and Seattle there are few choices, mainly Alaska and United. Alaska has been a Microsoft Preferred carrier for the entire time and United has gone on and off the Preferred list probably 4 times in 7 years. If you fly out of SJC then your only choice is Alaska.

Well I made my travel arrangements for our trip to Cabo San Lucas for my family on Alaska. 3 tickets for 2 adults and a 1 year old.

Alaska Airlines has completely and utterly failed us. I cannot even begin to tell this story without getting extremely angry. It is my firm belief that this carrier has no customer empathy. Not a single person who thinks about the customer. They are worse than every other carrier I have flown in my lifetime (and I have done my fair share of domestic and international travel). The bottom line about Alaska? They are a low fair, no frills, cheap airline that cannot schedule flight properly. Here is the problem...

every day of the year, Alaska Airlines assumes best case scenario.

Do you assume that the weather will be perfect for flying conditions? They do.

I have experienced every kind of problem with this airline. From the pilot who locked himself in the cockpit, to the tail rudder that stopped working, to the radio that didn't work, to the idiotic scheduling that doesn't leave any room for error. Not to mention the numerous canceled flights due to god knows why the plane could not get here.

They have built their schedules assuming that the weather will be perfect every day, and that their aging fleet of Boeing Planes won't fall apart every day.

What ever you do, do not fly Alaska to somewhere like Mexico, because if something goes wrong, they won't help you.

Anyway, here is my sob story.

We were scheduled to leave Cabo San Lucas on Friday Jan 4th. We have been here for 10 days and have had a lovely time. Really, this place is amazing.

I keep checking the flight info and start seeing some disturbing information. Our plane is scheduled to fly:

SEA -> SFO -> SJD (cabo) -> SFO -> PDX

all in a single day.

Well due to bad weather (really bad weather) and mechanical problems on the plane, the flight never makes it to San Francisco on leg #1. It ends up in Ontario, California. They don't cancel the flight till 2pm and I'm scheduled to leave at 2:30 pm.

I am calling every hour and they recommend I stay at the Hotel (which is 1 hour form the airport anyway). They have no departure time. With a baby, there is no way I am going to the Airport to hang around.

Finally the flight is canceled. One minute it is departing a later hour ever hour and the next minute, poof, we canceled it. I get on the horn. The lady tells me that I need to go to the airport to see if I can get a ticket on another carrier because they cannot do anything for me on the phone. Only the Ticket counter in freaking Mexico can issue me a ticket on another carrier. I begged and pleaded with the lady telling her I was an hour away and this wad ridiculous and she said it was the only thing I could do.

Oh, and the lady informs me that I'm confirmed on a flight out of Cabo on January 10th, 6 days later, which is the only thing Alaska can do for me, after all, this weather is an act of God and not their fault. Bullshit. they simply can't schedule their flights and sold every available seat for the next week w/o any contingency for anything to go wrong.

So, I hop in a cab and an hour later and $70 poorer I am now at the airport. I walk up to the ticket counter and immediately feel like I walked into Comp USA trying to return something. The best that these folks could tell me was that this issue was not their problem, it was my responsibility to find accommodation for the next 6 days and that they would not re-issue me a ticked on any airline. I would have to call Alaska and negotiate with them.

I waste 20 minutes arguing with people who don't give a shit. After all they have about 140 people in the exact same situation. Those without kids are happy to wait on standby for any flight out of this place. Since I have a 1 year old, I simply can't spend all day in the airport waiting around and then leave empty handed with no place to sleep for the night.

So I go back to the hotel, devastated and defeated.

Luckily my cell phone works here so I start text messaging my family who was with us who did get out of Cabo just fine. When they arrive in Houston they call us, we talk, and 30 minutes later my sister calls back saying they got us the last 2 seats on a flight on Sunday (2 days after our original departure) from Cabo to Houston. However, we are not getting out of Houston till Tuesday morning since the SFO weather has fouled up a lot of other folks.

Total cost for these 1 way tickets to get us home... about $2500. This is what the emergency fund is for, but lucky for me and my family my father has graciously offered to bail us out (thanks dad)! Spending money like this, regardless of whose money is not my idea of a fair deal though since Alaska has done NOTHING to get us home.

I have called Alaska a few times. I have waited on hold for a few hours and the only answer I have gotten from them was to call back the next day to see if they have added a new plane or more capacity to get folks stranded in Cabo home. I suspect many folks have made it out on standby (those without kids).

We have gotten very unlucky, but I've flown this carrier enough in my life to understand that this isn't an isolated occurrence. This is waay worse than my average 2 hour delay getting home on a business trip.

I am stranded in a foreign country, and while it's nice and beautiful here, sitting around a few extra days means my wife is missing work (she was scheduled to work sat, sunday, monday), I'm missing work and we are at a bit of wits ends for being away from home so long with our baby. We want nothing more than to be home.

There are worse things in life, much worse, but I feel beaten and defeated by a truly incompetent and bad airline. Yes I am sure that every airline has their skeletons. I've heard horror stories about being trapped on a plane for 11 hours sitting on the runway. That feeling of helplessness is something I try and avoid at all costs as to not impact me or my family.

The airlines have forgotten why they are in business. This industry and this system is just unbelievable.

In 2008 I will make every attempt to not give a penny to Alaska. I will fly United and Virgin to Seattle. I will never use them for any international travel, as they clearly don't have the resources, skills, or understanding to fix problems when they happen.

BTW, the United flight to SFO, also delayed due to weather from SFO, took off from Cabo with only a 4 hour delay. So clearly it's not just weather that Alaska can blame for these problems.

United got everyone home. Alaska left 140 people with nothing but a re-confirmation almost a week later.

Consider this the next time you give Alaska your money. You could be stranded to.

 

Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:21:37 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
The one really good thing about living in Kansas City is that I have three really nice airlines to choose from: Midwest, Southwest, and Airtran. No, stop laughing.

Midwest is my favorite. I've had exactly two flight where stuff went wrong, and they took care of everyone. They have lovely seats, fresh-baked cookies, and really great people.

Southwest is southwest. No frills, fun people, but they are really problem free, and the fly to a lot of places others don't. Prior to the Ted Williams tunnel, it was faster to fly out of Providence than Boston, just due to driving time.

Airtran tends to have a lot of delays, but their people are polite, go the extra mile, (in KC, before they had bathrooms in the secure area, the ground crew arranged for passengers to have access to the airline bathrooms), and their business class upgrades are cheap.

There's almost nothing that would convince me to fly any other airline unless I was going overseas.
Saturday, January 05, 2008 7:48:01 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Wow, that's truly awful. Aren't they legally required to rebook you on another airline?

http://www.bspcn.com/2007/10/24/10-useful-secrets-the-major-airlines-don%e2%80%99t-want-you-to-know/
Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09:59 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
>>they simply can't schedule their flights and sold every available seat for the next week w/o any contingency for anything to go wrong.

That's not an Alaska specific issue though. All the carriers do the same - search for the JetBlue Valentine's Day Massacre.

AA nearly did something to me like that last year around Valentines Day in Boston. Fortunately I was able to get them to fly me to NY so I could stay with the parents - and then go on standby.
Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:44:11 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Wow, great (and sad) story. My wife's parents were stuck here in SEA for four hours waiting for their flight to SFO on the 4th. Since they flew United, they actually got out. I used to really like Alaska (back when I started at MS 11 years ago) but I have given up on them. I still can't believe they still fly that crappy MD-80.

My sister-in-law, also here last week, flew Alaska to Burbank. Her flight was delayed for a bunch of hours for a "mechanical problem," then they took off. Before they reached 10,000 feet, they turned the plane around and did a landing complete with fire trucks lining the runway. That Alaska "fixed" their mechanical problem only to find it didn't work distresses me. It was an MD-80 and the problem was the rudder. If you will remember, their crash was an MD-80. Those planes are ancient. Alaska has also stranded us in Santa Barbara for many many hours when their plane hit a bird on landing and they, believe it or not, could not find a mechanic (he wouldn't answer the phone) and drove (not flew) one up from Los Angeles in heavy traffic on a Friday.

Oh, yeah, and they lost one of our cats when moving up here six years ago. To them, it's luggage, so they give you $200 for your troubles. Sorry about your pet. Bummer.

I agree with you. Alaska Airlines is a company made up of morons.
Rick Eames
Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:55:57 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Yuck, I feel for you.

My small observation: airlines, at least in the united states, clearly have some sort of monopoly power. clearly there's horizontal price fixing between the limited carriers available in any one market. I believe the major us carriers have lost on this in federal court in the US, but the result was a very small cash award, about 10 years ago, to whoever registered for the class action suit...

upshot is, it doesn't matter if the customers aren't happy. Airlines have no economic incentive to improve quality of service. None at all. You still have to fly on them.

In fact, their economic incentive is to provide you the _lowest_ quality of service. The less money they spend on you, in terms of seat space, in terms of attention by their paid representatives, the more they make.

It's pretty sad if you ask me; but there you have it. I don't think the situation is quite so bad in non-US markets, where they actually have to fight to get the sale.
Larry
Monday, January 07, 2008 9:25:02 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Man, I'm flying to Cancun with my five year old and 18mo old in about a month and staying about 40min south in Rivera Maya. This doesn't give me a warn fuzzy.

Hope everything is alright and your family is home safe.
Monday, January 07, 2008 11:56:42 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Wow. That sucks. That's the worst Alaska story I've heard yet. We also had some problems with Alaska over the holiday. It took Bernice's mom about 12 hours to get home from Portland (1 hour flight) because they continually promised and canceled her flight and she sat around the airport for like 10 hours. It would have taken less time for her to drive home. On the way up, they canceled the flight and they shuttled Bernice and her mom to Oakland (this happened to me once too), which about quadrupled the travel time.

I don't like Southwest very much - I hate not having a reserved seat - but at least they're on time and have a good reputation for customer service. We're planning on using them next time for trips to Portland (from SJ).
Sunday, January 20, 2008 7:48:43 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
>If you fly out of SJC then your only choice is Alaska.

Huh? I take Southwest out of SJC every time I go to Redmond...
Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03:19 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Dave, I don't consider Southwest a real airline :-). At least not till assigned seating.
Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:35:52 PM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
I won't bore you with the details of the Horizon (Alaska) nightmare I went through this week. Let me just say that they are not at all customer centric, they dont' give a shit, and I won't be flying them again. They actually threaten to call the security because I was complaining about the terrible service. I was not threatening them, either phycially or verbally, but was strongly complaining about the poor service. I then asked for a supervisor, who would not allow me to complain about the rude agent who threatened to call security on my, and told me if I didn't stop talking about her, he could deny me boarding. Horizon is always late, they cancel flights but won't tell you early on that it is likely so you can make other plans.

You have been warned stay away from Horizon Air.
Bob Iverson
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