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# Wednesday, August 09, 2006

Urge

Today I looked at my credit card bill and saw the $10 charge for Urge. I had forgotten that I signed up for Urge, and of course was annoyed because I've used it 3 times. That's right. I went through the rigmarole of getting WMP11 and getting all the urge software installed, then of course dealing with some DRM corruption issues that were perplexing requiring that I download some software from Napster to fix the problem. Ugh. So I went and cancelled service today. At least they make that easy.

Anyway, I didn't find Urge to be anything special. Not $120 a year special. It reminded me of my Napster experience albeit Windows Media Player has a bit more lipstick on it (still not pretty, no amount of lipstick will fix my complaints with WMP... take a look at the mess called the options and skins dialog to see what I mean).

The other day I read something that Thomas Hawk wrote that really resonated with me.

"Why else doesn't this excite me? Because Windows Media Player largely sucks right now and this is the software I'd likely use to interact with the device if I were to own one. This fact, Windows Media Player sucking (to be fair for me as a large digital music collector), has in fact dampered my whole spirit these days when it comes to digital music."

While Thomas does a lot of complaining about WMP, and while I don't agree with 100% of what he says, I do feel the same way. I am not excited about audio on my computer any more. It's a dreary, unfun, boring experience interacting with music through my desktop or laptop. I don't even bother copying my music collection to my laptop any more. The only place I have "fun" with my media library is on my Windows Media Center (which has a great music browsing/playing experience) and my iPod + iTunes. iTunes isn't an amazing piece of software, but I like using it. And please, I'm not going to get a 2 GB Clix so that I can have a tolerable experience syncing and playing my music on a portable device.

Lets hope Zune moves the needle.

PS - What is the deal with removing the menu bar from the applications? I don't understand this. It's one thing to remove the menu bar if it's clear and obvious how to do all the features that require the menu bar w/o having to use the menu bar. Sorry, but WMP doesn't do this right. They made it even harder in WMP11 to get to the menu which seems to be the only way I can figure out how to change a skin.

 

Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:21:38 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
You're not the only one disappointed with WMP [recent versions]. I know several people here in the office that use alternative players because of WMP's bloat and unwieldy UI. I haven't bothered installing WMP11 because of stories like yours. I would love to support it, but have finally gotten used to managing [kind of] my music collection via WMP10. I don't want to start over!

With regard to Urge, I still haven't found an online model that fits my type of music consumption. DRM is a PITA and the way MSN Music implements it [only available for 5 PCs and you cannot add/remove PCs yourself] sucks big time. I would pay $5/mo for a service, but no more. I think Yahoo! is that cheap, but then you're tied to their player. Ugh. I hope they get this figured out sometime soon so that the consumers can actually use their music in all the ways we want to.
Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:38:17 AM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Agreed on Media Center being a superior browsing/playing experience. The only exposure I've had to WMC was when I briefly had Vista installed (The Media Center in there is a trimmed-down version, presumably?) - I used every opportunity possible to show it to all the Mac afficionados!

I actually don't use WMP at all, Winamp does all my PC-based playing duties. I wish I could sync music to my i-mate SP5 though...
Monday, August 14, 2006 3:57:02 PM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
"I think Yahoo! is that cheap, but then you're tied to their player."

No you're not. You have to download songs in the Yahoo Music Engine, and renew your licenses there, but everything else can be done in WMP or WMC.

(Also, I don't get the WMP hate. It's not a perfect application, of course, but it's pretty darn good, bordering on great. And it's plenty performant enough on my 400+ CD collection, which is good enough for me.)

Monday, August 14, 2006 9:54:27 PM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
"(Also, I don't get the WMP hate. It's not a perfect application, of course, but it's pretty darn good, bordering on great. And it's plenty performant enough on my 400+ CD collection, which is good enough for me.)"

Try hiding the playlist and then see how long it takes you to bring it back. It took me 5 minutes of prodding the interface to figure out where they hid it (hint, it's nowhere in the main menu).
Monday, August 14, 2006 10:08:48 PM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
Slaven: I don't even know what you're saying. The only Playlist I see is a tree node on the left, and there's no way to get rid of it, that I can see.

Do you mean the List pane on the Now Playing screen? It took me two seconds to click on the drop-down under Now Playing (it was the second place I looked, after seeing if the right side of the window would expand back out), which is neither awesome nor terrible.

But since this is something I never do, it's not really that important. What I do a lot is browse my music and improve my metadata, and both of those things are easy to do with WMP11.
Monday, August 14, 2006 11:37:16 PM (Pacific Daylight Time, UTC-07:00)
It's definitely not awesome, and it's pretty close to terrible. To have the playlist control ONLY accessible via a tiny drop-down non-standard menu that is some 6 pixels high and that is not available anywhere else (including main menu and Options dialog box) is definitely a bad UI choice (I've studied UI design for many years). The fact that YOU can use it just fine does not make it a great UI.
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